Leah Figer: Now, about Eric Clapton.
Anna Marlan: That makes sense.
Leah Figer: so sad.
Makenna Kelly: But Eric Clapton was a huge fundraiser. What he can get is…
Leah Figer: Alicia Silverstone.
Makenna Kelly: know.
Leah Figer: What you told me made me especially sad.Can't start over
Anna Marlan: She has been involved in anti-vaccine activism since at least 2015.
Leah Figer: Yeah, that was new to me. To be honest, it was new to me. Obviously this is nothing new to all you conspiracy vaccine experts here. But could I watch Clueless again in the same way? I don't know. i don't think so. I'm afraid not.
Makenna Kelly: Well, celebrities have a really big influence and can help spread his name and what he's about and so on. And, not surprisingly, we see PAC approaching these fitness influencers and targeting micro-influencers with whom they have a direct relationship. The campaign focuses on reaching a wide range of people and engaging them on a smaller level to activate voting.
Leah Figer: oh yeah. What do all of this add up to? Family intrigue, money, celebrity fundraising, podcasts, conspiracies. What's next for this campaign, and could his candidacy actually make a difference? In what states is he actually eligible to run?
Makenna Kelly: The campaign reports it has collected enough signatures to appear on a handful of ballots in states including Hawaii, Nevada, New Hampshire and Utah. He also claims to be on the ballot in North Carolina and Arizona. At least three key battleground states will be chosen in this election.
Leah Figer: His campaign says he just added Iowa State last weekend. Just to be clear, this is what his campaign is saying, this is what the super PAC is saying. Actually, I'm not sure about this. Is there any chance that his candidacy will actually make a difference? Anna, what do you think?
Anna Marlan: This has been his assertion since the beginning of his candidacy. Who will it make a difference to? He's not going to be president, I can say that with a lot of confidence. In other words, the debate is whether Trump or Biden will get more votes. I think people who confidently make these declarations are probably overconfident. I think we'll probably get votes from both sides of the aisle.
But when he announced his candidacy, I wrote that his candidacy was primarily an advertisement for himself. This is an ad for himself, his anti-vaccination movement, and child health advocacy. Whatever impact it has on elections and voting, it will serve his public image and ability to raise money for other causes infinitely after he steps away from campaigning.
Leah Figer: I don't understand, Anna. I guess I have to agree a little. I think RFJ Jr.'s campaign will only help Trump. If you look at the polls of Trump supporters and Biden supporters, Trump supporters are enthusiastic. They are ready to vote for Trump for another term. Biden voters are slightly smaller. This is a very unpopular election overall. Independent, Biden or not, there will be plenty of voters who can overlook RFJ Jr.'s conspiracy-laden past. If it's not being discussed much in the media right now (which it unfortunately isn't), it's easy to look ahead and say: “I don't like his two choices, I'm going to take this one, I state. “It doesn't take that many votes to make a big impact, especially in states where Kennedy is trying to get on the ballot. . I'm really worried about how this will turn out.